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| 03/07/2008 5:24 AM |
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| So it was Vandals fault! *Hand him a noose* |
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StephanDanya
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| 03/07/2008 5:54 AM |
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I got quite a handfull of information after digging in some.
Chicky
0:0:450346
Ch1p
0:0:15554093
Shagula
0:0:10233405
eL baKon
0:0:5983199
If you need some more steamID's, feel free to ask, I have a mess of them. |
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Jimomighty
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| 03/07/2008 9:32 AM |
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Posted By Vandal on 03/07/2008 12:57 AM
hah.. I knew I recognized ATF Haya's avatar from somewhere. It all makes sense now ;D
I visited their TF2 server about 2-3 months ago coz my friend mentioned their server to me. I was kinda suprsised that he found their server since he doesn't even them, but I did  Anyways, when I joined their server, right off the bat Chicky asked a series of questions about Agent and about certain people which I kinda found odd. I answered them anyways coz my intentions were to have fun + for old times sake (played a lot on their CS 1.6 server until I was asked to leave for supposidly hacking). Then she asked if Agent had a server, which I replied to her "yes". I'm guessing that's when she went on to search for our TF2 server and planned for a gaynight on our server. I guess it was partly my fault but at least they're all banned now.
so.... demotion for Vandal? 
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ATF_Ex Shire Reve (guest)
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| 03/09/2008 8:52 PM |
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well.....this explains alot. I had someone else in mind for this stunt. Seems odd too since right now i am looking at an AI Snipe Hunt in our cs 1.6 server. Wonder if hes hunting up info. Seemed odd that whoever would "promote" Haya to General...he said he would take it though And HP never NEVER wears tags...he doesnt have to for us. This also explains why they raided our server first then yours. Most of us were not aware you had an incident as well. I will inform those involved in still wondering who this was, because the incident in our servers they didnt impersonate me...just yours. We assumed it was an ex member we wouldnt let back in. He was rather miffed. Its just so hard to believe after all this time that chicky would have it in her to make trouble between the 2 of us. So chilidsh. Its been years....i dont get the reasoning behind it. What could it really accomplish that would benifit her? Is destroying these two clans just so she can smirk worth it? Sad....
I really appreciate you guys figuring this out and yes we would love their steam ids so we can ban them across all servers. Ive never been a proponent of a clan wide ban but in this case it may just spare us all alot of grief. Im glad that you guys know ATF was not involved in any shenanigans on your servers, as we would look very sternly at anyone who would do such a thing. I like to think we are all more mature than that.
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Jimomighty
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| 03/09/2008 9:23 PM |
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!!!!! shenanigans have been declared!!!!
I wonder if old PB, Bos, and Alt are still kicking around |
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PapaBear
007 - Chief of Station
T2 Division
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| 03/09/2008 10:30 PM |
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The original PB was too doppleganger for me. I like to think he switched to board games, no offense Jim. 
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ATF_TTM (guest)
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| 03/10/2008 5:03 PM |
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if you could send me your email or the banlist over u2u on the ATF Public forum (to Two Toe McGruff) i would gladly make sure it gets to the needed hands of our TF2 divy.
I made a guess it was AI people when duce played on our server and told me of some ATF acting like assholes on the agent server, but had no proof...guess that pretty much solves that. GG to them being not only childish but damn ignorant too lol.
Nice job to you guys for finding that proverbial "Paper Trail" |
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ATF_Ex Shire Reve (guest)
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| 03/10/2008 5:54 PM |
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Toe....these will be posted in our forums:
Chicky
0:0:450346
Ch1p
0:0:15554093
Shagula
0:0:10233405
eL baKon
0:0:5983199
To add to that list i have a:
.::AI|JudgeJudy STEAM_0:1:4986032
.::AI|Quachie.CGI STEAM_0:1:703250
.::AI|d00d (also the name .::AI|Invader) STEAM_0:0:10748771
these have played on our cs servers. Ill see if i can drag up some more.
i really appreciate your time in all of this
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Al Smooth
TF2 Divvy leader - 008
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| 03/10/2008 7:40 PM |
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| Ex Shire, can you do something about the CS server? We've got a bunch of Agents banned on your CS server for no apparent reason...just a basic ban on sight thing. We don't understand it, we don't hold any sort of grudge, and some Agents would like to play there form time to time. Any help would be appreciated. |
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ATF_Ex Shire Reve (guest)
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| 03/10/2008 8:03 PM |
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another one:
.::AI | Snipe Hunt STEAM_0:0:191246
actually our ban list got dumped some time back so probably no one is banned I know we had a few that played regularly. Other than that we havent banned SAC as a clan, just case by case. May have been an *S* issue or soemthing. I can only think of a few that are banned due to being DD'ed from ATF. I show an agent 007(not banned)...probably not yours, and thats the only SAC or agent tags i find in our database. Did you used to wear your tags differently? Ill let the other admins know that this is still the protocol in case someone is holding a grudge. In light of recent events i dont want anyone freaking out. You can always contact me via any bans at email: ExShireReve@aol.com, aim: exshirereve, icq: 127136801, or Xfire: exshirereve Also we do have a pub forum, we just request ban issues be handled thru U2U and not in posts.
We also are up to 4 CS servers and one DoD in CS 1.6. So there is probably something worth playing. I think tonight it has become WC3 mod night. All are listed on our webpage with gametrackers to see who is there. With our game being so old it can be hard to populate a 32 man servers. |
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King of Braves
Chief of StationTeam Fortress 2
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Precariously
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| 03/10/2008 8:13 PM |
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| I have seen a "007" on our server quite a few times over the past two weeks. He's not us, but I haven' had any issue with him either (assuming it's a "him"). |
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John
004 - Staff Agent
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| 03/11/2008 8:21 AM |
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Posted By Al Smooth on 03/10/2008 7:40 PM
Ex Shire, can you do something about the CS server? We've got a bunch of Agents banned on your CS server for no apparent reason...just a basic ban on sight thing. We don't understand it, we don't hold any sort of grudge, and some Agents would like to play there form time to time. Any help would be appreciated.
in fact, i was banned on sight right about the time you made this post. i reg'd on the ATF public forum and posted about it. no response yet (save being instructed to move the post from the 'everyone' folder to the 'cs' folder).
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following is my email to exshirereve@aol.com on March 11, 2008 at 8:57am.
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howdy.
my name is john. i'm a relatively new member of Secret Agent Clan. i joined in november 2007, so i obviously wasn't around during the "old days" and am still learning SAC lore. i don't know much about the history between ATF and SAC, but i keep hearing rumblings from my clan mates about how they were banned from the ATF CS:S server and this and that.
i googled ATF clan yesterday to try to find out about your in-game rules and an i.p. for your guys' CS:S server to swing and say hello. i went in there not intending to be an asshat or cause trouble. i played one round on kismayo before i was kicked and banned without comment. i hadn't even had a chance to speak.
i guess im just confused by it. i dont cheat, swear excessively, spam, or ruin the game for others. i tried to rejoin twice, but with no success. i was hoping i could make some kind of appeal and be allowed to play on your servers. unfortunately, id already posted on your forums before i realized youd rather not handle bans that way, so im just writing to make a gesture of camaraderie in mutual future gaming fun.
thanks in advance for your assistance, friend.
*****
i hope im not just spinning my wheels or overstepping my bounds, here. id rather not get involved in a lot of internet animosity, especially when i dont even know what its about. |
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John
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HiBall
008 - Chief of Staff OFN
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| 03/11/2008 10:09 AM |
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Hmm, drama, drama, drama, leave it to Chicky and Alt to start shit, and they were so stupid and not change their avatar pics, lame. O and I can promise you that they have viewed this topic and are giggling like little children.
O well, on another note, as far as I know there is no animosity between ATF and SAC, in fact, I still have a great deal of respect for ATF and what they have accomplish, but we (meaning the founders of SAC) did not agree with some of the rules and politics of the ATF and decided to start our own clan. I think we have done damn well. Just look, our members are smart and can figure out stupid tactics by others that wish to bring two great clans down (Which will never happen).
Ex Shire, if you could please look into John's ban, I can tell you right now from our BF div, to the COD4 div, that we have never banned an ATF on sight just to do so, and I have not heard of such actions in our CS or TF2 div.
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King of Braves
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ATF_Ex Shire Reve (guest)
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| 03/11/2008 1:21 PM |
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| John i saw your post and told resiliant he was a douchebag for directing you to CS. You were banned from another division i have no control over. Source is headed up by Askull and i dont know what their policy is over there. I will speak to him and forward your email on to him. In the folder you posted in...CSS the post RoG has going explains protocol for their bans. Ill try and track some of those guys down and see what their policy is. Ive informed CS admins that SAC is not a ban on site but treated as any other pubber to our servers. History is a hard thing to break, as obviously AI holds animosity towards us still. Which is sad that chicky hates me and has to punish two whole clans for how she feels about one person. |
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John
004 - Staff Agent
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| 03/11/2008 2:01 PM |
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Posted By n/a on 03/11/2008 1:21 PM
John i saw your post and told resiliant he was a douchebag for directing you to CS.  You were banned from another division i have no control over. Source is headed up by Askull and i dont know what their policy is over there. I will speak to him and forward your email on to him. In the folder you posted in...CSS the post RoG has going explains protocol for their bans. Ill try and track some of those guys down and see what their policy is. Ive informed CS admins that SAC is not a ban on site but treated as any other pubber to our servers. History is a hard thing to break, as obviously AI holds animosity towards us still. Which is sad that chicky hates me and has to punish two whole clans for how she feels about one person.
thanks, i really appreciate your help.
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John
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Precariously
008 - Chief Of Staff
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| 03/11/2008 2:39 PM |
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Thanks for your help on these issues Ex Shire Reve.
I'm amused that the poetic irony of this situation is that a lame attempt to stir up shit, may actually end up doing exactly the opposite with ATF and SAC having a better, MORE trusting relationship going forward; with better lines of communication, and better innoculation against future asshattery. |
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PapaBear
007 - Chief of Station
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| 03/11/2008 3:18 PM |
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Posted By Precariously on 03/11/2008 2:39 PM
Thanks for your help on these issues Ex Shire Reve.
I'm amused that the poetic irony of this situation is that a lame attempt to stir up shit, may actually end up doing exactly the opposite with ATF and SAC having a better, MORE trusting relationship going forward; with better lines of communication, and better innoculation against future asshattery.
Yay for attenuated asshats that provide resistance!
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ATF_Ex Shire Reve (guest)
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| 03/11/2008 6:56 PM |
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| Yes guys i was thinking the exact same thing |
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